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Innectis - Minecraft Server => Announcements => Topic started by: Skye on January 22, 2013, 01:34:48 AM

Title: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Skye on January 22, 2013, 01:34:48 AM
Lets talk about the creative world. Beautiful 2D art can be made here. Some people work hard on these things, as you can see if you've ever checked it out. Another thing you'll notice is random griefs in the creations. Only certain people can build/destroy here. Super VIPs, and Goldys have free right to build and destroy anything here. Anyone else needs permission from an admin. Recently, some bans were issued because people griefed the creative world. Things they didn't make. Things that didn't belong to them. The ban times were around 2 weeks, and that might sound irrational, but to build here, you need admin trust, or you need to have put your real money into the server. Money you're wasting by not following the rules, and getting yourselves banned. If you want to run around and break blocks, go to the reszone. Not somewhere where people work hard for things that look nice. Enjoy your bans.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Vector on January 22, 2013, 01:40:46 AM
Take note that we can remove your build permissions from Creative at any time. One such user griefed there that I had given permission to build. I will remove build rights without hesitation if this keeps up.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: l_iamW on January 22, 2013, 02:42:12 AM
Maybe ban everyone in creative who has been banned for greifing (ban them from building there)
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: TheReasoning on January 22, 2013, 02:09:53 PM
Maybe we should have this world be trusted only, instead of openly open to Super+?

Wait, we can't do that because "Everyone must be equal". But wait,
Anyone else needs permission from an admin.
Meaning only certain players have the admins trust to build here? Oh no, that's not treating everyone equally.

Please back yourself up now with your nonsense rules.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Skye on January 22, 2013, 02:11:23 PM
The rules are non-sense, I'm not defending them in only way. :) I didn't code any protection or make any rules.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Eggnaug on January 22, 2013, 02:11:52 PM
Everyone has the same opportunity to donate. Trusted players have donated, or had someone donate for them.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: ryanteck on January 22, 2013, 03:43:02 PM
Everyone has the same opportunity to donate. Trusted players have donated, or had someone donate for them.
^^

Do you see any big non trusted users which are Suoer +?
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: hungrybobby1 on January 22, 2013, 10:28:32 PM
im thinking of maybe implementing an application for to fill out (1-2 questions) and have it reviewed by mod/admin.
its alot safer and easier to choose between certain people. more secure and no harm done.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Skye on January 23, 2013, 04:28:58 AM
Everyone has the same opportunity to donate. Trusted players have donated, or had someone donate for them.
^^

Do you see any big non trusted users which are Suoer +?
...yes a ton. lol.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: luetzj on January 23, 2013, 05:43:39 PM
Everyone has the same opportunity to donate. Trusted players have donated, or had someone donate for them.
^^

Do you see any big non trusted users which are Super +?

No offence to the vT donors, but the vT donations seem to have brought in more spammy and inappropriate ranked users due to their rich friend.

My only suggestion would to be to allow trusted members, not have it be a rank allowed permission.
 
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: TheReasoning on January 23, 2013, 06:46:15 PM
allow trusted members, not have it be a rank allowed permission.

Please.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: l_iamW on January 24, 2013, 03:11:28 AM
What would you rank as a trusted member? Mature,Active,No Bans, Well Known?
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: StarScythe7 on January 24, 2013, 09:24:47 AM
What would you rank as a trusted member? Mature,Active,No Bans, Well Known?
All of the above?
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: luetzj on January 24, 2013, 06:57:23 PM
What would you rank as a trusted member? Mature,Active,No Bans, Well Known?

All of this, and the staff (for the most part) would have to know/like them.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Eggnaug on January 24, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
I like the way we have it currently, people who have donated or had someone else donate for them being allowed to creative world.  I personally don't mind checking creative world once every month or so. If a player chooses to grief, let them. All they are doing is getting themselves banned. In the past we have revoked people's permission to use creative world if they have griefed. Also, changing the current system we have gets rid of one of the many incentives for player to donate. And as most of you know, the server runs off the money supplied by donations.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Eggnaug on January 24, 2013, 08:24:14 PM
Maybe we should have this world be trusted only, instead of openly open to Super+?

Wait, we can't do that because "Everyone must be equal". But wait,
Anyone else needs permission from an admin.
Meaning only certain players have the admins trust to build here? Oh no, that's not treating everyone equally.

Please back yourself up now with your nonsense rules.

I can't trust you if you cant't trust the judgments of staff. Does this mean you shouldn't build in creative now? Your argument seems to say so.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: TheReasoning on January 24, 2013, 09:59:40 PM
I like the way we have it currently, people who have donated or had someone else donate for them being allowed to creative world.  I personally don't mind checking creative world once every month or so. If a player chooses to grief, let them. All they are doing is getting themselves banned. In the past we have revoked people's permission to use creative world if they have griefed. Also, changing the current system we have gets rid of one of the many incentives for player to donate. And as most of you know, the server runs off the money supplied by donations.

Last time I checked, the server costs what? $120 a month on the high end to run correct?

Goldy = $50. We have ~80 goldies alone
 
$50 x 80 = $4000

$4000/120 = 33.3333 months just of goldies at the moment

The server has been up for just over 21 months now if I remember correct? I think we are fine in terms of keeping the server running.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Eggnaug on January 25, 2013, 12:39:48 AM
You haven't included other expenses that Hret pays for.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: TheReasoning on January 25, 2013, 12:14:09 PM
That is why I set the cost at $120. -.-"
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Vector on January 25, 2013, 12:17:48 PM
The system is fine as it currently is. Out of ever block build in the creative world, a very miniscule amount has been removed in act of griefing. This won't spark a huge change. We can just simply revoke their build rights, easy as that.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Nosliw on January 30, 2013, 08:44:09 AM
The system is fine as it currently is. Out of ever block build in the creative world, a very miniscule amount has been removed in act of griefing. This won't spark a huge change. We can just simply revoke their build rights, easy as that.
Although, we might need to be stricter with removing peoples creative rights? Then again, we haven't had many repeat offenders..
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: l_iamW on January 30, 2013, 11:00:44 AM
You may of not had repeat offenders but there offences are serious enough!!!
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: TheReasoning on January 30, 2013, 04:49:20 PM
Maybe to settle this it would be easier to have a simple Zero Tolerance Policy towards creative grieifing. (I am unaware if this is already in place or not.)
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: chrisjones23 on January 30, 2013, 04:52:18 PM
Maybe to settle this it would be easier to have a simple Zero Tolerance Policy towards creative grieifing. (I am unaware if this is already in place or not.)

i thought it already was zero tolerance but i may be wrong
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Nosliw on January 31, 2013, 04:24:00 AM
I believe that our current approach is that you get a second chance, but after that you will have your creative building rights revoked. However I guess that it depends on the severity of each case, and who bans them, as only Hretsam, AlphaBlend and The_Lynxy have the power to revoke someone’s building rights.
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: l_iamW on January 31, 2013, 09:23:56 AM
I believe that our current approach is that you get a second chance, but after that you will have your creative building rights revoked. However I guess that it depends on the severity of each case, and who bans them, as only Hretsam, AlphaBlend and The_Lynxy have the power to revoke someone’s building rights.

What about you?
Title: Re: Recent Bans Concerning the Creative World
Post by: Nosliw on January 31, 2013, 09:26:31 AM
What about you?
Nope, neither me nor merc have the powers to do that :P