Innectis Community Forum
Innectis - Minecraft Server => Suggestions => Topic started by: OrangeBlueZ on March 18, 2012, 09:15:46 AM
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Alright, I bring this up merely because of recent events that I've both endured and observed. What I'm talking about is the use of lava buckets as a weapon in innectis, more specifically in free building areas like freebuild and reszone. As a player who takes reasonable precautions (I.E. Wears armor everywhere and executes situational awareness of players in my vicinity) I know it is simple enough to avoid/protect yourself. I know killing players is usually permissible. However, I cant help but voice concern over the usage of buckets with the intent to harm players in these areas.
A couple points toward this:
- PVP is disabled in these areas
- Many users lack the capability to defend themselves against this (I.E. Cannot use buckets/Lava buckets) due to rank.
- Reszone was not created as warzone. Hence Resource Zone
- Lava buckets can be used instantly and indefinitely by players with permissions to use them
- No matter where you go, players can be tracked with UI mods and even commands provided to us. (/locate)
My point is, these places were not made to allow fighting by default, and using a lava bucket to harm players is simply circumventing the PVP restriction. And people HAVE certainly been doing it. I realize these are excellent tools in the right hands, but presently I see this act as simply a way to grief and harass players and get away with it. I feel the 'killing is allowed on innectis' under these particular circumstances is not a fit course of action for dismissing the problem. Killing players may be allowed, but I think the only reasonable way would be if all players have a fair way to interact. I move that we either enable PVP altogether, or find a reasonable way to stop lava buckets from affecting other players in these places.
Just a friendly concern with a suggestion to improve it for all.
~OBZ
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I've actually thought of disabling lava buckets in reszone before. Perhaps only allow it if the bucket is poured on a block that a player is standing on?
I agree, that this does circumvent the PvP system, such that you're not directly interacting with the player themselves when killing them.
Hretsam, Lynxy? What do you guys think? Disable lava in reszone when it's placed under a player, or just make that same behavior adhere to PvP conditions?
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I definitely agree with OBZ, I really don't see why any player would need to place lava in an area made for harvesting resources other than to kill other players.
I would think just disabling it in reszone would be the quicker and more effective way, but then there's also freebuild, and I'm sure some people do use lava responsibly in freebuild.
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I've actually thought of disabling lava buckets in reszone before. Perhaps only allow it if the bucket is poured on a block that a player is standing on?
I agree, that this does circumvent the PvP system, such that you're not directly interacting with the player themselves when killing them.
Hretsam, Lynxy? What do you guys think? Disable lava in reszone when it's placed under a player, or just make that same behavior adhere to PvP conditions?
So are you saying it only allowed when you place it on their feet or anywhere but that? 'Cause lava does spread and they dont have to put it on ur feet, just near you.
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Would be cool to have lava buckets work like block placement. Cannot place if a player is standing on the block.
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If it were possible to have a lava block instantly removed/deal no damage if it makes contact with a player within x seconds of being placed. That would seem like a very prudent way of dealing with it if at all possible. That way it can still be used, but lost if used against someone. This of course would only have the limitation of damaging someone potentially afk, but to that end you should probably avoid being afk somewhere unsafe...
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What need is there for lava buckets in reszone?
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What need is there for lava buckets in reszone?
Collecting lava from a source as a resource; placing it on the edge of a dark ravine/hole can let you see how far the drop is better than anything else because it emits light.
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I'd like to disable it because NAME CENSORED tried to kill me and others when we were trying to collect items. +1 for this idea!
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How about cancel lava placement if there is more than 1 player (yourself) in a 5 block radius?
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I think that would definitely help. I hate stripping things from players whenever it can be helped, and that seems like an excellent solution.
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This has already been added and is currently live on the server. The radius is 3 blocks :)