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Innectis - Minecraft Server => Suggestions => Topic started by: Dshumway62 on July 29, 2014, 05:10:34 PM

Title: Line of sight
Post by: Dshumway62 on July 29, 2014, 05:10:34 PM
May i suggest removing "line of sight" 99% of the time the item is in your line of sight and it is just annoying. You cant even remove a repeater without removing the block above it.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: mercilessdegree on July 29, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
I'm with Dsh pleeeaaaaaaassseeeee
If the item WASN'T in my line of sight, I couldn't have even clicked on it so what sense is made there?
I really don't see when this is anything but annoying (Or at least never seen or heard of it).
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: SGT_ADZ on July 29, 2014, 11:38:56 PM
It's part of NoCheat like many other things. It's there for a reason, what that reason is I'm not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: l_iamW on July 30, 2014, 03:57:25 AM
I agree! Most of the time it says You are not in the Line of Sight, I am standing right in front of it barley a block away! Please remove this!

It's part of NoCheat like many other things. It's there for a reason, what that reason is I'm not 100% sure.

The reason it is there is to annoying the living hell out of you.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Snow_Owl82 on July 30, 2014, 11:32:08 AM
there was a bug thing where you could activate a lever by destroying the block it was on and in the seconds that it was broken you could activate lever/button/stuff
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: l_iamW on July 30, 2014, 12:12:53 PM
there was a bug thing where you could activate a lever by destroying the block it was on and in the seconds that it was broken you could activate lever/button/stuff

How is that relevant?
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: StarScythe7 on July 30, 2014, 02:30:25 PM
This reason this is on the server is to prevent people from activating buttons/levers/redstone that they're not supposed to be able to reach normally.

What Snow said is a good example of what this is trying to prevent.

We probably won't remove this completely, but I wonder if it might be tweakable to be less strict.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: l_iamW on July 31, 2014, 04:08:06 AM
This reason this is on the server is to prevent people from activating buttons/levers/redstone that they're not supposed to be able to reach normally.

What Snow said is a good example of what this is trying to prevent.

We probably won't remove this completely, but I wonder if it might be tweakable to be less strict.

Oh so what Snow_Owl said he was talking about what having Line of Sight stopped, oh :P I thought he was just talking about some random old bug that has no link to Line of Sight. My bad.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: CertainlyNotNosliw on August 11, 2014, 05:05:42 AM
NoCheat? I could have sworn IDP itself added the LOS checks. Even so, NoCheat is very easily customized, you can not only disable certain checks, but change what it does when one fails, for example kick, warn, nothing, etc.. If it is the IDP LOS check that I'm thinking about, then the problem is that it treats all blocks that are not on the exception list as full blocks. This could be fixed with perhaps 'Partial Blocks', something that would allow certain blocks to ignore LOS checks on some faces, for example repeaters on the top face, where there is mostly air.

The reason line of site checks were added is to prevent players from accessing chests/waypoints/levers that are on the other side of walls. This can be done via hacks, or by breaking a block and trying to interact with the lever/chest/etc on the other side before the block re-appears, playing with other peoples levers isn't cool!

Ahem.. speaking from a completely outside point of view here.. because after all, I am not Nosliw ;)
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Florfy5 on August 18, 2014, 06:36:46 AM
yeah some wheat is in front of a chest, and, even when the wheat is in it's FIRST STAGE, it still won't let me open the chest. PLEASE remove it it is SO ANNOYING...
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Eggnaug on August 18, 2014, 09:53:04 AM
It's there for your own protection. I doubt it will be removed.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Florfy5 on August 19, 2014, 05:37:34 AM
It's there for your own protection. I doubt it will be removed.
How does it protect us? It's a plain annoyance in my eyes...

maybe players could toggle it?
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Snow_Owl82 on August 19, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
It's there for your own protection. I doubt it will be removed.
How does it protect us? It's a plain annoyance in my eyes...

maybe players could toggle it?
if we could toggle it, everyone would toggle off and leave it like that
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Eggnaug on August 19, 2014, 01:53:20 PM
As Nosliw said, it prevents players from block glitching and hitting levers, opening chests, and pressing buttons that are behind walls.


Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Nosliw on August 19, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
As Nosliw said, it prevents players from block glitching and hitting levers, opening chests, and pressing buttons that are behind walls.
However, as I also said, there can be exceptions added with some blocks. In other words, a lot of the problems with LoS at the moment can be fixed.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Vector on August 20, 2014, 10:59:11 AM
The problem was that NoCheat's LOS checks kept getting in the way. I looked a few times to see if I could tweak that but didn't find the setting. So honestly NoCheat's is more strict than ours, and it wasn't ours that was the problem, since whenever I stumble across blocks that should be exceptions I do add them to our list.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys...
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Nosliw on August 20, 2014, 08:07:55 PM
The problem was that NoCheat's LOS checks kept getting in the way. I looked a few times to see if I could tweak that but didn't find the setting. So honestly NoCheat's is more strict than ours, and it wasn't ours that was the problem, since whenever I stumble across blocks that should be exceptions I do add them to our list.

Sorry for the inconvenience guys...
Then disable NoCheat's LoS, or set it to Warning only.. There is no need to have 2 plugins running the same checks.
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Florfy5 on August 22, 2014, 01:04:26 PM
remove it for cops PLEASE
Title: Re: Line of sight
Post by: Snow_Owl82 on August 22, 2014, 10:23:00 PM
remove it for cops PLEASE
Why.